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"You know he got his moves from a brother. He ain't learning no moves from just somebody up in the cornfield. He went to the hood and got some dance moves." -- Chris Brown
Posted by Kim Davis on Dec 4th 2007 3:00PM
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Reader Comments(1 of 2)
moniqueat 12-04-2007
Everyone knows that Elvis not only stole dance moves, but lyrical content and style as well. But I guess the best form of flattery is imitation! its not new that the black culture is constantly robbed my mainstream america. I wouldnt have a problem with that if the same people who bobbed their heads to hip hop didnt clutch their purses and wallets when coming face to face with a black male. I agree that Alot of the hip hop music that gets radio play is vilent and degrading, and as a black woman I choose not to listen to it, but satanic heavy rock music is no better, and I dont clutch my purse when a goth walks behind me in a dark alley because passing judgement just on someones appearance is wrong in more ways than one.
Frankat 12-05-2007
To Chris Brown: Here's a quote from a black R&B artist who was there and knew what he was talking about...
"Almost every black solo entertainer copied his stage mannerisms from Elvis." -- Jackie Wilson
To Monique: You might try listening to 1954-55 Elvis. After you did so, try naming a single black artist who was singing rockabilly and sounded like Elvis. You know what? There wasn't any. To quote another black artist who was there and knew what he was talking about...
"Elvis, he was unique." -- B.B. King
Maurice Colganat 12-05-2007
Ah Yes the ol' Elvis stole black stuff ploy.
Just as African-Americans stole step dancing from the Irish?
Just as the great Ludwig Van Beethoven stole an Irish air for the Finale of his magnificent 7th Symphony?
It's just all so amusing :-)
No race or nation owns music or dance. They cannot be stolen, they can only be shared.
Boy did Elvis share! The whole world got a piece of his action.
Brian Quinnat 12-05-2007
Elvis Presley was the GREATEST mover of all-time. No contest. He stole nothing from anybody. Two of the greatest black American singer/dancers, Jackie Wilson and James Brown both credit Elvis as an original. BB King stated that when they called Elvis "The King" he did not think they got it wrong. In fact, Jackie Wilson went further and stated that MOST black entertainers got their moves from Elvis.
Neil Schmidtat 12-07-2007
Elvis himself credits much of his influence from black musicians and their musical style. Black musicians of the day (as have been quoted by others here) credit Elvis for helping their cause and say how unique he was. Those who say Elvis 'stole' black music need to read up on musical history before making these stupid comments. A lot of musicians played a part in making rock and roll, but Elvis brought it all home.
William J Mitchellat 12-26-2007
It cracks me up when ignorant young people make comments about subjects they obviously know nothing about. Any one who knows musical history knows that Elvis took most of his moves from Jimmy Cagney from the film "Yankee Doodle Dandee" (Cohen) These folks need to study up on music/ history and maybe even learn to read music instead of sampling somebody's music, putting a simple poem to it , and saying they wrote this song. Yeah right, you wrote a sophmoric poem and put it to a real musicians music.
Michelleat 1-06-2008
Elvis was NOT the greatest mover of all time. Michael Jackson is. Now THAT is no contest. All Elvis did was wiggle his hips. Woohoo. Big flipping deal. Michael Jackson actually DANCED! You need to get in touch with reality. Michael is the true king. (And don't start about the plastic surgery or what you think he may or may not have done to any stupid little money grubbing kids crap. This is ONLY ABOUT HIS DANCING ABILITIES!)
Givraat 1-06-2008
A few comments:
a) To Michelle, post #7. If you don't want comments about Michael Jackson, then you shouldn't have brought him up. Other then to say that I suspect you're a "fangurl" of his who has decided to ignore his negative points other then how negative they might be, I will refrain from commenting about him past this, NOT because you demand it, but because the post is actually about the comment about Elvis. Or to put it another way, YOU decided to try to derail it to be a post about Michael Jackson, YOU deal with it if people bring up aspects of him you don't like.
b) As for Elvis Presley, I don't know where he learned his dance moves, so I won't comment on if the quote is factual or not. Having said that, I find it ironic that sampling is accepted so much in Hip Hop and other music genres, yet the person quoted had the gall to mention that Elvis "must" have gotten his dance moves from the black community. I admit this is only assumption on my part, but I think the fellow quoted is himself assuming, and doesn't know one way or another either.
Am I flaming Hip Hop and other music styles for sampling, no. (I do think it's overdone, but that's another issue). But I do think that this is the pot calling the proverbial kettle black to mention if Elvis copied anything from any other genre.
natoshaat 1-06-2008
dont you know anything he stole it from forest gump!
no seriously, Elvis didnt steal anything he was inspired. yes he did sing black music, how it was said back then. hip hop now. but he didnt steal it, they let him in thier clubs as a juke joints and he learned, I will admit IN THAT TIME, it did take off cause he was white. but he didnt steal it. he just main streamed it, and paved the way. too bad it turned out that way. things were differnt then. im just glad that people NOW recognzie that he did get from the african american culture.
Lou Elliottat 1-06-2008
In defense of Elvis, I think Cris Brown, like so many other so-called African-Americans is full of himself. When Elvis started out the black community didn't have Rap and Hip-hop and if the truth be known the black community stole them from the black-face minstrels. It was known as Ham-bone back then. The big lie is when the people who do Rap and Hip-hop say the blacks invented it.
lenat 1-06-2008
everyone knows elvis stole his moves from forest gump
Bigmooseat 7-03-2008
nice lol
Patat 1-06-2008
I will give Mr.Elvis credit. His moves appeared to me to look very rehearsed. Not natural.When you look at Mr.James Brown or Mr. Jackie Wilson I saw a more natural flowing moves. Sure Elvis was alright but no way can he be put in the same catorglory as James-Jackie-or even Michael. Natural is the key-Elvis was not!
Carolat 1-06-2008
First I would like to say I am no Elvis Presley fan. I do not care for his music. I do, however, feel that he was a pioneer for what music is today. Yes, he probably did "steal" some of his moves. I think you will find he pushed for a more ethnic sound to his music than most radio stations and music producers were ready for at that time. I'm sure some of that came from areas of America that weren't being appreciated or even heard by record companies or music producers. So say what you want about Elvis stealing from the black culture. He also helped to open up the doors to the music they were playing in juke joints and hidden bars.
As for Monique...you say that, "passing judgement just on someones appearance is wrong in more ways than one.", yet earlier in your post you say..."but satanic heavy rock music is no better". I'm sure you are an educated woman and don't honestly believe that all heavy metal, thrash metal, hard rock, emo music or whatever you define it as is satanic. I believe that there is a very small amount of music that can be defined as satanic. Who knows maybe I have even listened to some of it. Certainly that doesn't make me a satanist.
Maybe we are all avoiding the fact that Chris Brown's comment was taken out of context. Maybe he was laughing and joking about it. I'm sure he didn't mean any disrespect and we are only reading part of, and not hearing all of, what he had to say on Elvis Presley.
Buzzat 1-06-2008
Just like the blacks of today. Everything is stolen from them by the white devils. Maybe the use of your brain instead of your mouth once in a while, would be a better way to go. You just sound real stupid when you say things like that.
Arunat 1-06-2008
blah blah blah!!! Blah Blah Blah!!! Elvis stole dance moves? haha yeah right- just like he is still alive right? Or wait- Elvis was abducted by aliens and is somewhere zippin around the galaxy, sometimes he returns to Vegas and makes a impersonation of himself... Better yet, according to Forrest Gump- he met this nice man with a guitar case and showed him how to do that thing with his hips.. hahaha.. Chris Brown- not only are you young but kinda under the bar as far as education.. Oh BTW Mr. Brown- how many gold and platinum records do you have? Wait, i forgot NONE! In fact- i have never even heard of you before.. Grow up dude- you have a lot of that to do..
Patrick Flanaganat 1-06-2008
This is a racist comment. What makes him think that blacks are the only ones with the right moves. It is just human nature that some can move right and others can't. It certainly isn't a function of color. That is just stupid and racially motivated from ignorance.
Yeseniaat 1-06-2008
Well I do clutch my purse when I see a goth man, as well as a black man, latin, asian and any other race/ethnicity that I may have left out, if it is a man. I'm a woman and I'm alone and a man is behind me I'm clutching my purse and I'm gonna walk as fast as I can. So, monique it's not being judgmental it's being safe. Women are being robbed and raped everyday by men of all different races and style of clothing. Get over the racist crap already and get over Elvis stealing moves from the black community, it was like 100 years ago. Also, doesn't Diddy, Puff Daddy...whatever his name is steal white people beats all the time oh but thats okay right?
BERNADINEat 1-06-2008
All this talk about Elvis stole this and that! Grow up! He was a pioneer of his time and if the blacks can not accept it..too bad! Elvis never stole anything in his life! Artists after his time have attributed thier style of dance and music to the one and only "KING" "ELVIS PRESLEY!" His moves were not natural? I laugh at that!!! He was the most natural and honest person you would ever want to meet in your lifetime.
I am so tired of blacks claimimg whites stole this and that from them~What? Are they the only ones that can sing and dance? I think not. Get some brains before you open your mouth.
As for Michael Jackson..well that has been was nothing more than rehearshed over and over again. Michael king...NEVER!!!!! This is not about him anyways. From what I am reading regarding The King-Elvis Presley, I see a lot of jealousy because he was and still is the Greatest all time musician and will always without a doubt be THE KING OF ROCK AND ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!God rest his soul.
sschw68at 1-08-2008
Elvis didn't steal anything and he didn't take other influences and make them "mainstream". He was blasted from all but a few of the "white" industry execs. He took gospel, country, and the music of his Mississippi roots and combined them into something so different he had a hard time getting it to the people. He started a revolution by being so popular that the industry had to jump on his bandwagon to make their money.
Elvis took all the flak for his moves so he should get the credit for it. He opened doors and he opened ears. He will always be the King.