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Beth Ditto Doesn't Care if Katy Perry Is 'Impressed'
- Posted on Jun 18th 2009 10:55AM by Steve Baltin
In the war of words between Katy Perry and Gossip frontwoman Beth Ditto, Perry got in the last salvo when she recently told the London Paper that she wasn't "impressed" with Ditto. Ditto, who was unaware of Perry's words until Spinner informed her, laughed it off ... at first. "Honestly, I could care less if Katy Perry's impressed with me," Ditto tells Spinner.You see, it all started when Ditto -- who, with her band, is releasing a new album, 'Music for Men' next week -- was quoted calling Perry "a boner dyke," saying Perry and her hit single, 'I Kissed a Girl," were both "offensive to gay culture." While Ditto says she takes responsibility for the comment, she clarifies that the phrase "boner dyke" -- which is a term for a straight female who kisses girls to attract men -- was actually her Gossip bandmate Hannah Billie's phrase. "I feel guilty because it is such a funny expression and Hannah didn't get the credit for it," Ditto says. "But I don't feel differently than Hannah."
Ditto believes the issue is much greater than a little war of words on blogs. "It's not about Katy Perry," she says. "It's about this song and its innocence on her part. To [Katy], it's just this party song. But as a gay person, it's like, 'Oh, of course this straight person singing about kissing a girl goes straight to Top 40 and people buy this record. Who can give a f--- about real gay people?' That's what's really painful about the whole thing. That's what makes me laugh about 'I'm not impressed.' It's like, 'Oh, that's what you think? Of course, because you never thought about what a real gay person feels, and the impact that a song like that has on the gay world in a time of crucial civil rights.' That's just one of the examples of what the mainstream is thinking about queer culture, when actually, we are completely fighting for our rights right now."
Ditto is, of course, referring to the fight for gay marriage. The out singer says she's experienced firsthand the discrimination often incurred by gay couples who aren't legally protected. "I'm 28 years old," she begins. "I had surgery when I was 23. My partner was kicked out of the room -- at that time, we'd been dating for four years or something -- and in the rudest, most f---ed up way. That s--- is real, and that's what I don't think people realize. They're like, 'Oh, gay marriage.' No, you try being a really scared 23-year-old in this hospital room that's 3,000 miles from home, and the only person that you have is your partner, who can't stay because you're not married or they're not your relative. That's insane and absolutely scares me to death."
Some may argue, however, Katy Perry has helped -- even innocuously -- bring a new light to gay culture. But Ditto would like to see the Perry engage in a real conversation on the topic. "I don't care if she writes a song about kissing a girl, but there are people who kiss girls in their everyday life, and it's not as easy as just kissing a girl and everyone loving you," Ditto says. "It'd be really rad to hear her talk about something like that."
Your move, Katy.
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As a queer, I'm not offended, but I definitely see where Ditto is coming from. No matter whether it's a silly song or the most serious thing Perry's ever written, it sends the message that gay is a choice. I've seen a couple of comments about how there is no "gay" in the animal kingdom when that is actually false.
I think Beth's argument is completely valid, and it's great that Perry finally got the message, but the method was all wrong. Ditto is letting her jealousy get the better of her when she should be taking the high road about these kind of things. Or at least have more tact.
Ok, I am completely for the fight of Gay rights in this country....I understand the pain and struggle that Gays go through to get respect in this country...But sometimes I feel like they need to lighten up just a lil....it seems like everything is so offensive to them personally. So what if a girl has fun kissing another girl, just like so what if someone enjoys sucking someone's toes in the bedroom...like seriously to each his own. Katy Perry has a large gay following herself so obviously Beth Ditto does not speak for the Gay community as a whole. Just because Katy was recognized for her song and it hit #1 even though she is a straight woman, and yes gays do struggle to be succesful in the music industry this I know...but that is not Katy's fault. The problem is much bigger than Katy so stop targeting her.
October 22 2009 at 2:34 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyBeth Ditto should be thanking Katy Perry for helping people to think that girls kissing is COOL. Did she ever stop to think that people really like this song about a girl kissing another girl and that it might help people have an open mind about the subject? Because when people are open minded about girls kissing, they're also a lot more likely to be open minded about other stuff like, hm, I don't know, gay marriage? Katy Perry is doing the gay community a favor. What if she wrote a song about how girls kissing girls is gross? Even more people than Beth Ditto would complain that it's "hurtful to gays."
July 07 2009 at 5:55 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyExcuse me, but plenty of girls experiment with other girls before they actually switch teams. Not every gay person starts out gay. I would think the lesbian community would be HAPPY about Katy's song. At least it shows some acceptablility about the whole business. Instead, they'd rather pick a fight where none exists. This is not about a song. This is about the jealousy of one artist over another. There's war in the world, people have real problems. Get over yourself.
July 01 2009 at 11:24 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyBeth doesn't have any mainstream hits so she's a little pissy. Meanwhile, she gets her name out there with this little cat fight. Should really be for her music, not her petty jealousy. Kudos to Katy for not going down that road.
July 01 2009 at 11:17 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI think porky was the same person that once said Britney Spears was hideous and now this... it seems as though chubby has a problem with slender girls try taking the twinkies out of your face it might help.
June 23 2009 at 12:06 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyTo be honest, i think Perry's kissed a girl has opened a few doors for the gay community. in all honestly, i dont think she was trying to be offensive with her lyrics. I think Ditto needs to calm the fuck down. Im sorry but shes willing to jump to these over the top conclusions. No offense but reacting like this and syaing this isnt doing th gay community any favors. Relax and breathe and do the obama approach. oh and How exactly does 'I kiss a girl' affect gay civil rights? its a song about being drunk and making out with a friend just do it..maybe if everyone and i mean both gay and straight didnt take themselves so seriosuly and just enjoy..maybe some harsh feelings would be spared
June 22 2009 at 5:42 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI find the song "I kissed a girl" completely insulting as a lesbian, and if you are a lesbian and don't, then your finger is far off the pulse. It reinforces that strait women can kiss girls, and fear their male counterpart's reaction (hope my boyfriend don't mind it)...afterall, who the eff is her boyfriend to mind? And what about the girl she kissed? was she just an experiment? If I were the "kissee" I'd be even more insulted. Sure I"m all for fun songs, ala Sheryl Crow and the like...but this song insults lesbians. And good for Beth Ditto..if you don't know who she is, then you are missing an entire genre of good music, and again, where's the pulse?
June 22 2009 at 10:09 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyHey Beth just have a tuna melt & shut up...
June 22 2009 at 9:57 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI'm not quite sure where Beth gets off thinking she can speak for the entire gay community. I'm a musician at a gay establishment and I've never heard anyone else with a concern over the song. Up to this point, I've never heard of Beth Ditto either. At the end of the day, it's just a fun little pop song, and someone else's opinion.
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