Titus Andronicus Clash With Security at Halloween Gig
- Posted on Nov 2nd 2009 1:30PM by Michael D. Ayers
- Comments (27)
It seemed like such a simple gig: show up at a warehouse, play Weezer covers for a bunch of hipsters, collect a paycheck and go home. Such was not the case for New Jersey indie-rockers Titus Andronicus, who were booked to do such a thing at the Vice Magazine Halloween Party, held this past weekend in Brooklyn. In a lengthy blog post Andronicus frontman Patrick Stickles details his clash with security. But that was the least of his worries. Stickles, who was dressed as a "glam Ulysses S. Grant," was a bit disappointed in the land of disenchantment he found himself in, and before their set even started, found himself by the door seeing his lady friend off. A security guard told him that his U.S. flag -- a costume prop -- wasn't allowed in the venue and escorted him to the door. After they got outside, Stickles said, "He yelled, 'NOW LEAVE!' and, grabbing me around the torso, began forcing me towards the metal barricades. Growing frustrated at the effort it was taking to get a 140-pound man in tights to do what he wanted, this gentleman grabbed me around the throat and lifted me off the pavement, tossing me over the barricade and onto the sidewalk."
Stickles continues to postulate that the security guard was not exactly sympathetic to any sort of indie subculture that may or may not have been thriving at that certain spot, or was just in a mood for a fight. It was hard to tell.
"I figure that either, a) he saw his position of authority as a good opportunity to stomp queers like he used to with the other good old boys, or, b) this guy was a real American and seeing a degenerate hipster like me hoisting Old Glory was just so offensive a sight that he was driven into a blind rage, like any reasonable person would. Point is, I was now forcefully ejected and, indeed, physically assaulted, and unable to gain access to the event where I was expected to entertain the assembled masses."
In the end, Vice tried to play damage control and mentioned that they'd bring up lawsuits against the security company but he didn't seem too convinced. Let's hope their upcoming gigs go better.





Reader Comments(1 of 2)
confusedat 11-02-2009
Why would a US flag not be permitted in Brooklyn? Is it not still in NY? Is NY not still in the US?
gennieat 11-02-2009
I find it amazing that this performer has the decency to say this jerk has authority. These guys have authority issues and are laughable. I would sue his ass.
SpiceMonkeyat 11-02-2009
...and what is it, exactly, that you would sue him for? Please. Share with us.
Keithat 11-03-2009
SpiceMonkeyat 11-02-2009
...and what is it, exactly, that you would sue him for? Please. Share with us
Try Assualt. Security guards are not police officers. They are ordinary citizens paid to WATCH premises. These cases have been tried before and resulted ion convictions and sometimes jail time.
samat 11-02-2009
There is no reasonable explanation/excuse as to why an American flag wouldn't be allowed anywhere in America (aside from a reservation, of course). I've never heard of such a thing. The venue and/or security company should be boycotted...or wiped off the face of the earth.
Kimberlyat 11-02-2009
That security guard was way to forceful grabbing person by the throat out of anger cause he was not doing what he was told that seems to me like a abuse to the guy and of power their for the guard. And banning Old Glory what is up with that it does not matter who is waving it its a symbol of our country obviously the guard has some anger management issues and the guy ought to sue.
CCat 11-02-2009
Kimberly, I had sooooo much trouble reading your comments because of the MANY spelling/grammatical errors. You come across as illiterate; therefore discrediting your views.
PROOFREAD PEOPLE!!!!!
nateat 11-02-2009
CC,
I also had some difficulty reading your response. I'm not sure but last time I checked so is spelled so. Additionally, the English language does not capitalize consecutive letters in words.
Point is that if you're going to criticize others you should have enough intelligence to ensure that your own writing is grammatically correct. In addition to you coming across as illiterate you come across as a POS (read into that) for criticizing others when you have the same faults.
SpiceMonkeyat 11-02-2009
For what it's worth, security guards and bouncers are probably the leading profession represented in the county jail system, usually because of stupid crap like this, assault, vandalism, etc. Like someone else said, "authority issues."
SpiceMonkeyat 11-02-2009
Nate, did anyone tell you today that you're a self-righteous asshole? If you couldn't read that comment, I'd say you need to make sure you graduate from high school before entering society, and then perhaps a stint in the military to teach you how to act in public. I'd say, offhand, it's a simple issue of not having your ass kicked often enough, but since you probably spend all your time hiding behind your computer in your parents' basement, you're safe for now. But you'll have to get a job someday. Grow up.
Keithat 11-02-2009
What is this lately with American flags not being allowed on American soil? This piss-ant security guard should be fired and sued.
SpiceMonkeyat 11-02-2009
Sued for what?
Robertat 11-02-2009
It is disrespectful to wear the U.S. flag in any way. Google flag etiquette and it will tell you what you can and cant do with the flag.
Lotteat 11-02-2009
They are rules of flag etiquette, NOT laws. And the respectful wearing of the flag has been accepted for a very long time - if done respectfully as I stated. If it were NOT, then even wearing a lapel pin would be out of the question.
BKLat 11-02-2009
That security idiot was just looking for an excuse to rough someone up. I worked in security for a very short time after college and before my Real Estate business took off, and I quit because I got so tired of these police academy rejects just strutting around and looking for a fight with anyone smaller than them. The bank should have called the real police and had the guard arrested and then followed up with legal action.
BKLat 11-02-2009
That should have said band, not bank....oops :)
Lisa Marieat 11-02-2009
since when is it disrespectful to wear an american flag in the country of america?????? If people dont like it, then get the HELL OUT! If you cant respect the flag or even take the time to speak the language, then BU BYE! because as far as I'm concerned, I may not be proud of the decisions my government is making, however, I'm proud to be an AMERICAN! I'm thankful that I can wake up in the morning and get the opportunity to work!!! and not have a machine gunin my face, or gang raped by a bunch of uneducated angry lunatics! SO, I say FIRE the bouncer!!!! I mean, Isn't that the job you do to get through college????? Not make a living out of it! I guess he couldnt pass the police or mall rent-a-cop test, so that was his last resort! WHAT A LOSER! From now on from this day, I will make sure there is an american flag on my person at all times!
How do ya like that sh*t!?!??!?! and proud of it!
mesamanat 11-02-2009
Mommy, mommy this big bully is kicking my butt for desecrating the American flag. Waaaaaa!
debat 11-02-2009
Mesa man is that mesa az? IF SO IT EXPLAINS YOUR REMARK...the whole town is on meth.
johnat 11-02-2009
This is another example of how mentally deranged conservatives are. They are so idolatrous that a flag, a piece of cloth created by mankind to mean something that has nothing to do with God except for the fact that Americans have tried to make it stand for God (blasphemous idolatry), sends them into a violent rage. Well, the meek shall inherit the earth, so we know that conservative idolaters will not inherit the earth.