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The Clean Happy to Be Back for First European Tour in 19 Years

  • Posted on Jun 11th 2010 12:00PM by Stephen Dowling
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The last time New Zealand's the Clean toured Europe, the Berlin Wall was a recent memory, Radiohead were still called On a Friday and music downloads were the stuff of a madman's dreams. The Kiwi trio last took their influential DIY post-punk to European highways and byways in 19991 -- and quite a lot has changed since then. The 19-year-gap was bridged thanks to disciples Pavement -- who asked the trio to open for them for the first of their eagerly-awaited Brixton Academy shows and take part in the Pavement-curated ATP.

The Clean are one of those bands who crop up in the best record collections; formed in 1978 in New Zealand's southern city of Dunedin by singer-guitarist David Kilgour, his drumming brother Hamish and bassist Robert Scott, the Clean helped launch their fledgling label Flying Nun to international acclaim. It was thanks to the likes of their debut single 'Tally Ho!' (think 'Louie Louie' as written by
MGMT) and the EP 'Boodle Boodle Boodle,' a record rightly revered for crystallizing what later became known as the 'Dunedin `Sound.' The Clean were a massive influence on Pavement and have also been name-checked by the likes of Yo La Tengo, Lambchop and Calexico. All this while the band have been quietly making records but rarely touring outside of Australasia and the occasional visit to the US.

Bassist Scott spoke to Spinner as the band's first European tour in 19 years wound down.


So what got the Clean back to this part of the world after so long.


We got an email from Pavement's people – 'Do you want to do ATP?' -- and we though, 'Yeah that's good.' And pretty much at the same time we got an email from Primavera who obviously heard we were coming over, and that made sense being the start and the end of the tour, and the other thing we tacked on to the front of the tour was the Chris Knox benefit [a New York concert to raise funds for the New Zealand musician who suffered a stroke last year] on May 6, and it was a good line up of bands so it made sense to do that. Once that was sold out we could do our own show in Brooklyn the next night. That was good fun.

The Clean don't play very often. Is it hard slotting back in?

We'd only had an hour's practice having not played since 07, so it was like an hour running through the songs, and then ''Oh well, we can practice the songs at soundcheck and build up the repertoire.' Which we were able to do. We pretty much learned 20 during practice and another 10 during the tour.

We did New York and then came and did the Pavement support in Brixton which was fine, it was a very big boomy room, but it was fun. The we went down to Brighton and played a small venue, the Freebutt. We lost a fuse out of the amplifier and it fell down the side of the stage, which was very Spinal Tap. So we spent half an hour with a bit of gaffer tape on the end of a pole trying to get it out from down the side of the stage. So it ended up that while the support band was playing Tex and I unscrewed the front of the stage, and Tex crawled in and got it. I don't know what the support band made of that. It was quite bizarre.

What was the ATP show like?

We drove up to Minehead and we had the idea of stopping at a nice romantic bed and breakfast on the way, near Stonehenge, but we ended up at a Holiday Inn, but it was a Holiday Inn near Stonehenge. So we went and saw Stonehenge in the morning and then went up to ATP and that was a real blast, staying in these funny we plastic cabins, but it was great, got to see loads of great bands like the Fall, Endless Boogie. The Walkmen -- the PA cut out after about four songs which was a shame. Boris, who were incredible, one of the loudest bands I've ever heard. Time New Viking; Hamish ended up drumming with them on their gig. It was quite an intense time.

Brixton's show must have been fun. Pavement gave you the full PA to play through.


At Brixton I couldn't see the crowd so I couldn't really see who was in it.. At the ICA [the Clean's London headline show] we saw quite a few familiar faces. But it's been so long that I think some of the fans have drifted away and some people have forgotten about us, cos it's a heck of a long time to be away. It was a bit of, not a gamble coming over, but it was quite interesting to see how things had moved on in the interim.

So after the UK gigs?

Then we were off to Amsterdam. That was interesting. We were in a big venue, but we were in a smaller sideroom. But there were quite a few fans who had come up form Germany, and someone from Czechoslovakia, who wrote a poem about the Clean on his Facebook. Last year he did one about the Bats 9Scott's other band].

There's some real intense fans out there. In Hamburg we played a funny little club where most of the stage was taken up by a DJ booth, so we'd squeeze around that. Then it was Berlin and it was a really nice club in Kreuzberg. We had a day and a bit off there. We had a bit of time to see the former East. And by then things were quite realized on the tour, and we were learning new songs we hadn't tackled before. It wasn't a big crowd, but we weren't expecting big crowds in places we hadn't played before.

The Clean's career -- you took 12 years to record your first studio album -- isn't exactly a blueprint ...

You do the opposite of what we do, to be honest. It's always been like that. There's no way we're ever going to tour overseas every second year. Whenever we do stuff it's a bonus for the fans, and I obviously love it. It's a case of when it happens it happens.

A lot of people were trying to get hold of back catalogue, they've been out of print so long, cos everyone knows what's happened to Flying Nun, but that's all going to become available again. There's still lots of fans out there, and they're very keen and that's great to see. They were amazed we'd come back after such a long time. They couldn't believe it.

The Clean's new album, 'Mister Pop',' is out now on Merge.
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frenchosa

I care.. one of the best indie bands of the 80s

I saw the Clean at CBGBs in NYC on their first tour of the States with Chris Knox about 20 years ago. Definitely the best concert I have seen in my life. That tour was also a reunion for them. They formed in 1978 and split in the early 80's. They reform every few years when they have time to put out a record or do a concert. The Clean now is more of a side project for the members. All the band members.. Robert Scott, Hamish Kilgour, and David Kilgour have other bands that are worth checking out..

Robert Scott - the Bats (released more albums than the Clean), and Magick Heads.
David Kilgour - Solo and Stephen
Hamish Kilgour - the Mad Scene.. was also in the original lineup of Bailter Space

Their heavily covered song "Don't point that thing at me" is the 80's a Kiwi "Stairway to Heaven"

Pavement are very indebted to the Kiwi sound and are very influenced by the Clean. I think they sound the most like the 3Ds.

June 21 2010 at 10:14 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply
The Riverboat Captain

Stop whining about not having heard of them. Are you feeling insecure? Don't you like discovering new things you don't know about? Isn't that fun? Isn't it boring to be presented with the same old names every time? Let me answer that one for you - yes it is. Grow up. Grow a spine. Listen to The Clean. If you don't like em, fair enough. If you do, you've added to your breadth of knowledge.

June 13 2010 at 10:34 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply
Frank

who? leave it to AOL to highlight reunions and deaths of bands and musicians nobody heard of.....Soundgarden's back together....but nooooo...it's all about some no-hit wonder......

June 13 2010 at 4:31 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply
Alvin

Who cares..I never heard of them anyway. IT must be a slow news day for Spenner Reporters.

June 13 2010 at 3:09 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply
mikey

For once, I have to be the guy that says, WHO???????

June 13 2010 at 3:08 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply
Bob

Who the hell are "The Clean"? I never heard of them nineteen years ago much less now.

June 13 2010 at 1:32 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply
mark

I you-tubed this band and nothing was familiar to me but I did like the "Fish" instrumental, had a kind of 60's and Doors sound to it, eh maybe not.

June 13 2010 at 1:27 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply
jeff

I concur................ who? why?

June 13 2010 at 1:04 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply
Sharyn

RATS! I was hoping it was the Smiths or the Policeor Simon and Garfunkel...no such luck! Oh, well. That picture of the band member makes me think this reunion was at gunpoint!

June 13 2010 at 12:02 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply
Nicole

I can't believe you guys haven't heard of The Clean before... I'm actually impressed that AOL has such obscure/hip band articles on here as headlines.

Maybe you guys haven't heard of Pavement, Yo La Tengo or Calexico either, but The Clean is well-known amongst musicians and hard-core indie rock music fans alike.

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