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'Nevermind' Originality: What Influenced (And Was Influenced By) Nirvana's Classic
- Posted on Sep 22nd 2011 3:30PM by Kenneth Partridge
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Nearly two decades after the Nirvana frontman's suicide, young musicians worship Cobain the way he once did John Lennon, Iggy Pop, Greg Sage and all of the other people who inspired him to pick up a guitar. Such is the nature of rock 'n' roll -- each generation builds on what the previous left behind -- and as the world celebrates the 20th anniversary of 'Nevermind,' we examine five albums that influenced, as well as five that were influenced by, Nirvana's commercial breakthrough.
Five That Inspired 'Nevermind'
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When Cobain compiled a list of his top 50 favorite albums -- an inventory included in 'Journals,' his posthumously released book of his personal writings -- this Fab Four set came in at No. 37. It may seem like a lowly placing, but Liverpool's finest had a profound effect on Kurt's music. He reportedly wrote 'About a Girl,' from Nirvana's first album, 'Bleach,' after an all-day 'Meet the Beatles' binge, and as he pushed himself to create more melodic music on 'Nevermind,' the influence became all the more apparent. 'Nevermind' producer Butch Vig has said that in order to convince effects-averse Cobain to double-track his vocals, he'd remind him that John Lennon often employed that bit of studio trickery. That was all it took.
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Anyone who knows anything about 'Nevermind' knows that Cobain lifted the disc's loud-quiet dynamic shifts directly from this alt-rock classic. "When I heard the Pixies for the first time, I connected with that band so heavily that I should have been in that band -- or at least a Pixies cover band," Cobain famously said. On his album list, only Iggy and the Stooges' 'Raw Power' places higher.
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Even before he became close friends with Michael Stipe, with whom he'd planned to record a side-project album, Cobain was a devout fan of R.E.M. Their 1988 major-label debut, 'Green,' ranks 25th on his list of favorite albums, and while 'Nevermind' is notably louder, it's not entirely dissimilar. Like Stipe, Cobain had a gift for making the cryptic seem intensely heartfelt and meaningful, particularly when he paired his lyrical vagaries with giant pop hooks. Kick up the fuzz on something like Stipe's 'World Leader Pretend' -- "I sit at my table and wage war on myself" -- and you've got yourself a grunge anthem.
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This one didn't make Kurt's list, but in his Nirvana biography 'Come As You Are: The Story of Nirvana,' Michael Azerrad reveals that Cobain often played the cassette on his way to band practice. It's easy to see why: These Jersey power-poppers updated the early-Beatles' sound for the College Rock '80s, reinforcing the idea that tuneful bands could still rock.
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It's one of the most frequently quoted lines in all of Nirvana lore: "All in all, I think we sound like the Knack and the Bay City Rollers being molested by Black Flag and Black Sabbath." Written by Kurt for the DGC's 'Nevermind' press release, it was yet another pure-pop confession from a guy most people figure was too bummed to bump 'My Sharona.'
Five Albums Inspired by 'Nevermind'
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Rivers Cuomo was reared on hair metal, but by the early '90s, at the dawn of Weezer, he'd found himself craving something new. That something was 'Nevermind.' "Back in 1991, I wasn't having any fun," he sings on 2008's telling 'Heart Song." "'Til my roommate said, 'Come on,' and put a brand new record on/ Had a baby on it; he was naked on it/ Then I heard the chords that broke the chains I had up on me." Weezer's 1994 debut was for geeks what 'Nevermind' had been for burnouts, although in both cases, the quarterbacks, cheerleaders and just about everyone else eventually crashed the party.
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Chatting with Rhapsody in 2009, Wavves main man Nathan Williams professed his love for 'Nevermind,' calling it "an absolute classic record." At the time, he was touring behind the ridiculously lo-fi 'Wavvves' album -- more 'Bleach' than 'Nevermind' -- but the following year, he returned with 'King of the Beach,' offering a more scrubbed-up, tuneful take on his surf-grunge sound. It smells like teen spirit -- and weed.
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Suggesting rock's chain of influence sometimes loops back and forms a circle, R.E.M.'s ninth album may have been influenced by a record their first six made possible. Featuring an uncharacteristically brawny guitar sound, 1994's 'Monster' deals in part with the pitfalls of celebrity. It was dedicated to actor River Phoenix, who died in 1993 of a drug overdose, and lead single 'What's the Frequency, Kenneth?' gets its title from something a crazed mugger said in 1986 while attacking newsman Dan Rather. What's more, Stipe wrote the distortion-heavy ballad 'Let Me In,' which contains the line, "I had a mind to try to stop you," specifically for Cobain. Whether this was R.E.M.'s attempt at making a "grunge record," Nirvana's music and brush with fame obviously left their mark.
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"We're mainly influenced by Nirvana," singer and guitarist Cassie Ramone once told the website Uncensored Interview, revealing that this trio listens to more than just the Jesus and Mary Chain and '60s girl groups. The Vivs' 2008 self-titled debut is raw and amateurish yet undeniably catchy. Much of it harks back to the Vaselines, Scottish scruff-pop greats Cobain loved enough to cover three times, but closer 'I Believe in Nothing' is pure bubblegum grunge -- hipster Brooklyn's way of echoing that quintessential Cobain phrase, "Oh well, whatever, never mind."
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It will surprise no one who still remembers this 2002 album that the Vines got their start playing Nirvana covers. The sound is grunge meets garage, which might explain why the Aussie foursome didn't quite fit with the other rock-revival bands -- the Hives, the Strokes, etc. -- popular at the beginning of the '00s. For a while, it seemed like erratic frontman Craig Nicholls might go the Cobain route, but instead of flaming out in public, he's largely faded away. It's not as romantic, but at least he's still breathing.
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I don't see how you could leave out Boston's "More Than a Feeling" as an influence on Nirvana, as it directly inspired "Smells Like Teen Spirit". Just listen to the two songs back to back.
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September 24 2011 at 5:19 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Replywhere the hell is darkside of the moon
September 24 2011 at 3:55 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Replygood bands. i don't like country music much,rap,r&b, now days hard to find good music these days, most new rock related are teen trash of today.
i was mostly vh1 fan till they added all crap sit coms,
dish network & directv get the stupid channels to bring back the classics!
not much of mtv,fuse,bet,gac,cmt channels fan.
out of billboard top 100:
likes:Maroon 5,Christina Aguilera,Britney Spears,Jake Owen,Lady Antebellum,Toby Keith,Jason Aldean,Keith Urban, The Black Eyed Peas,George Strait,Jimmy Buffett,Rascal Flatts,Natasha Bedingfield,Taylor Swift,Selena Gomez ,The Scene,Gavin DeGraw,Red Hot Chili Peppers,Colbie Caillat,Foo Fighters,Ronnie Dunn,
dislikes(where do they come with fakes?):Adele,Foster The People,Lauren Bennett,GoonRock,Adam Levine,Bad Meets Evil,Bruno Mars,Cobra Starship,Sabi,Rihanna,Nicki Minaj,Lady Gaga,Lil Wayne,Pitbull,Ne-Yo, Afrojack & Nayer,Katy Perry,OneRepublic,David Guetta,Usher,Coldplay,Dev,Hot Chelle Rae,The Band Perry,DJ Khaled,Drake, Rick Ross & Lil Wayne,Drake,Blake Shelton,LMFAO,Kelly Rowland,Rodney Atkins,Alexandra Stan,Jason Derulo,Otis Redding,Kelly Clarkson,Kenny Chesney,Grace Potter,Brad Paisley,Carrie Underwood,The Script,Big Sean ,Kanye West & Roscoe Dash,Eli Young Band,Afrojack,Eva Simons,Beyonce,Iyaz,Travie McCoy,New Boyz ,Chris Brown,Jay Z Kanye West,Nicki Minaj ,Miguel,Kreayshawn,Wiz Khalifa,
not sure:Andy Grammer,Zac Brown Band,Miranda Lambert,Pitbull,Marc Anthony,Demi Lovato,Trace Adkins,Billy Currington,Brantley Gilbert,Hugh Laurie,Tony Bennett & Amy Winehouse,
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September 24 2011 at 3:09 PM Report abuse Permalink -1 rate up rate down ReplyR.I.P. COBAIN.
September 24 2011 at 3:07 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThis was a game changer in '91...I like it but it pretty much wiped out skilled metal guitarist work being released. Not complaing...just saying truth.
September 24 2011 at 3:02 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyNothing better than watching the mindless, and musically challenged honor a half assed album of screaming lyrics and riffs stolen from other bands, and the lead, A heroin junkie that felt sorry for himself, and decided to kill himself so he could be immortalized like the greats, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, and Janice Joplin, and I did mean great, they where miles above the underachiever Cobain. and Here is the funny part, they didn't commit suicide, well not on purpous like Cobain.. It in the end was a testament to the end of the music greats and to all the people who actually had talent.. I just have to say thank god for Alice and Chains, An STP, cause without them and just Cobain I may have offed myself, if I had to listen to that crap Nirvana called music....
September 24 2011 at 2:51 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply...neee A little harsh there..BUT you do have some good points. I too feel punk music( and its related lofi genres) like this are resposible for a lot of junk music out there 'cuz everyone thinks they can release anything and its good. It ain't
September 24 2011 at 3:05 PM Report abuse Permalink +1 rate up rate down Replyburnouts? yea right i dont think kurt cobain wouldve liked aol looking at his band like that or that album in general....
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